Bye bye Leon

[Scot]

Hi there!

This will be my last entry in this forum while I just sold my Leon.
In 9 months time I've been to my Seat dealer 10 times and my car was in for 13 days in total.

Now all the problems are finally solved but the fun is gone and also is my trust in Seat.

All I wanted is a car with Italian looks and German engineering, but when I look back over the last nine months I would have been better off buying an Italian car in the first place.

I think that Seat has a good designer and good components (VW) to choose from but screwing the thing together is a whole different story.

If you read this and are about to buy a Leon (or any other Seat for this matter) think twice.
Chances are you 'll end up with a very unhealthy relationship with your Seat service manager.

And talking about Seat dealers, although the cars are from the 20th century, the dealerships are still from the days when Seats were cheap Fiat sidekicks.

My new car? Not a VW product I can insure you.

Scot.

Ps. Herr Dr.F.Piech, next time we meet I would like to kiss you, because when I get fucked I would also like to kiss.

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[Matthias H.]

I find it rather disappointing that you are not willing to give Seat a second chance...

The Leon has no severe quality problems. Your car may prove something else but this does not reflect the general opinion and experiences in this forum. It sounds hard but your Leon was one of the few and unique so called "monday-cars" (in Germany we have an expression called "Montagsauto", what basically means that the respetive car has too many "mistakes").

I think Seat would have deserved a second chance, sadly you're not willing to give them this chance...

I don't know the British laws, but at least in Germany there exists something that's called "Wandlung" (I have no english word for that sorry), what means that you can give the car back and get a new one when the old car has had problems the dealer wasn't able to fix within a couple of tries...

 

[Scot]

"I think Seat would have deserved a second chance, sadly you're not willing to give them this chance... "

They had 10 chances in 9 months, after how many chances would you feel stupid?

Lucky for Seat there are still owners like you, who don't want to see the flaws and like the close relationship with the dealership.
Mind me, there are also people wo like to be spanked by a whip, also not my cup of thee.

No thanks, enough is enough and Í'm now gowing out for a drive in my new, shiny and most important, dry car.

Cheers
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[Cupra]

Let´s wait, until a new italian car brakes down after 2 years

I also have some problems with my Leon, but my dealer has a very good garage, whitch was able to fix all my problems until now.

So i will have fun with my Leon for quite a long time

@Scott
Good luck with your new car. Maybe u´ll return in a few months.....

 

[rainerle]

that´s ok. bye, bye scot.

 

[ernie]

Well Scott, I understand why you sold your Leon. As Matthias allready said, you had no luck with your car. Most users like their Leon and have just a few or no problems with it.
That you will or cannot give Seat a second chance for the moment seems clear to me.
So, goodbye Scot. Maybe one day you'll get back to Seat....

ernie

 

[DoppelteGlasur]

@scot

wie kann man nur so engstirnig sein.... :angry: :angry:

kann ja mal vorkommen das ein Auto nicht den Erwartungen entspricht,oder???

deshalb gibt es ja Gesetze die solche Vorfälle regeln...und das auch in England!!!

würd allzu gern wissen was du dir jetz kaufst...ROVER????? :vomit: :vomit: :vomit:

es tut mir echt leid,mir kommt da die Galle hoch wenn Engländer über deutsche Autos herziehen...lernt erst mal selber Autos zu bauen die europäischen Standards entsprechen!!! (siehe Dauertest Jaguar S-Type in AutoBild)

was immer du auch jetz fährst...ich hoffe er hat noch mehr Macken als dein Leon!!

 

[ernie]

@DoppelteGlasur

Ich finde, sowas ist nicht nötig!!!! :angry:
Nichts was Scott gesagt hat, war irgendwie beleidigend. Warum wirst Du es?
Er hat seine Meinung dargestellt und die finde ich nachvollziehbar! Er hat viel Pech gehabt und ist jetzt verständlicherweise frustriert. Wer weiß, was in ein paar Jahren ist....

ernie

 

[DoppelteGlasur]

dachte mir das so etwas kommt....

ich versteh ihn ja,aber er meint wohl jeder Seat ist Müll uind zieht VW auch noch mit rein!!!
nur weil er ins Klo gegriffen hat muss das nicht für alle gelten!!!
das kann ich nicht für gut heissen!!!

 

[Scot]

"es tut mir echt leid,mir kommt da die Galle hoch wenn Engländer über deutsche Autos herziehen...lernt erst mal selber Autos zu bauen die europäischen Standards entsprechen!!! (siehe Dauertest Jaguar S-Type in AutoBild)

was immer du auch jetz fährst...ich hoffe er hat noch mehr Macken als dein Leon!!"

No reason to get personal Doppelteglazur, and by the way Seat is Spanish.

By the way, because of us you can drive a car of your choice, remember.

Cheers
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[HiJacker]

@DoppelteGlasur,

mußte das sein ??? ?(

Dein Kommentar ist ja wohl echt ein wenig an der Thematik vorbei und auf der anderen Seite warum greifst Du Scot wegen seiner persönlichen Entscheidugn an ?? Und was bitee hat ein englisches oder deutsches oder spanisches Auto mit persönlichen Entscheidungen zu tun ??

Sorry, das ich das so deutlich sagen muß...aber das einzige was hier engstirnig ist (um Deine Worte zu benutzen) war Dein Posting.

@Scot

No reason to get personal Doppelteglazur, and by the way Seat is Spanish.

By the way, because of us you can drive a car of your choice, remember.

Cheers
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You are absolutely right, once again you can see that one annoying comment can damage the apperance of a whole community.

 

[aikon]

@Scot

Seems you had a lot of bad luck with your car, some of us dont. Still, on a general level I think there are quite a lot of problems in the VW cars. This comes mainly from the arrogant approach of the mass car manufactures. They spend more time in thinking about global growing and getting market share instead of satisfying customers. But this is not only the case for VW; this is the same for all mass car manufacturers. So you definitely will have problems with any car you get below 50000€.

 

[DoppelteGlasur]

@scot

for me Seat is a german car!! only built in spain...like VW Polo and Sharan!!

 

[Johannes]

@doppelteglasur

Wer ist hier engstirnig? Jetzt findet jemand Dein Auto nicht gut, und Du bist beleidigt. Außerdem: wie wäre es, dieses Pamphlet auf Englisch zu schreiben, damit er es auch versteht?
An seiner Stelle würde ich ebenfalls dem Volkswagen-Konzern den Rücken kehren.
Der größte Brüller ist aber der Bezug auf die AutoBlöd... :]

Bis dann,
Johannes

 

[DoppelteGlasur]

@Johannes

da bin ich auch beleidigt!!!

ich habs so verstanden als findet er nicht seinen Leon sch... sondern VW allgemein!!!


das mit Autobild sollte nur ein Hinweis daruaf sein das man auch mit Super Marken nen Müll kaufen kann!!! kein Auto ist perfekt


ausserdem denke ich ist an dem Ganzen eher seine unfähige Werkstatt schuld

 

[Scot]

I can read German so please use any language you prefer, I can adapt.

Don't forget, I owned 6 VW's and 3 Seats before so it was not easy for me to trow in the towel

Scot

 

[DoppelteGlasur]

@scot

eine frage noch:

hattest du mit den anderen Autos aus dem VW Konzern

auch Probleme???

 

[Scot]

With some of them, some rust on a 2 year old Ibiza and a Golf GTI with a mind of it's own, but in general I loved these cars, especially my Golf V5 and my wife's Arosa.

I have been in Germany a lot and used to drive them at full speed for hours, even the Arosa was a lot of fun on the Autobahn.

So you must understand my dissapointment, I spend loads of money on these cars over the years and when I needed something back (like good customer support) they where not at home.

Scot
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[DoppelteGlasur]

@scot
ich weiss ja nicht wie es bei euch ist mit Kundendienst aber ich (habe 5 Jahre in einer Seat Werkstatt gearbeitet) fand den den kundenservice im allgemeinen gut!! hab schon mit vielen Fahrern anderer Marken gesprochen und die meisten hatten beiweiten nicht soviel Service(besonders Kulanz) wie VW-Seat Fahrer!!

 

[Kathrin]

Bye,bye Scot